{"id":1352625,"date":"2024-05-22T10:30:42","date_gmt":"2024-05-22T09:30:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.squawka.com\/en\/?p=1352625"},"modified":"2024-09-02T09:55:47","modified_gmt":"2024-09-02T08:55:47","slug":"glen-johnson-interview-liverpool-chelsea-klopp-palmer","status":"publish","type":"news","link":"https:\/\/www.squawka.com\/en\/news\/glen-johnson-interview-liverpool-chelsea-klopp-palmer\/","title":{"rendered":"Glen Johnson: &#8216;Jurgen Klopp right at the top of Liverpool&#8217;s greatest-ever managers&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Former Liverpool defender Glen Johnson spoke to Squawka about the dawning of the new era at Anfield after Jurgen Klopp&#8217;s departure.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Other topics covered include potential transfer plans for Arne Slot, Liverpool links for Anthony Gordon, the big VAR vote and the most underrated player and manager of the season.<\/p>\n<p>Johnson also spoke about Chelsea and their late European push, Cole Palmer, Reece James and gave his thoughts on England ahead of Euro 2024.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Jump to:\u00a0<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"#KLOPP\"><strong>How Jurgen Klopp transformed Liverpool<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#BEST\"><strong>Where Klopp ranks among the best Liverpool managers<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#ARNE-SLOT\"><strong>Transfer priorities for Arne Slot<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#VAR\"><strong>Why VAR should be scrapped<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#CHELSEA\"><strong>Chelsea securing European football<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#PALMER\"><strong>Cole Palmer&#8217;s season and future<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#ENGLAND\"><strong>Hopes for England at Euro 2024<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#UNDERRATED\"><strong>The most under-rated player and manager of the 2023\/24 Premier League<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Liverpool couldn\u2019t quite keep up with the title charge in the end this season. Do you think they lost some momentum knowing that Jurgen Klopp was set to leave at the end of the season?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>No. I think they definitely lost momentum in the sense that they didn\u2019t go to the finish line with the others. But I don\u2019t think it was down to Klopp [announcing his departure], because when the big news broke they went on a good run, so I don\u2019t think it was that. I just think that it takes an awful lot to go toe-to-toe with City with their squad to the death, it takes an awful lot.<\/p>\n<p>And you\u2019re going to need a lot of luck along the way in terms of keeping people off the treatment table. So I put it more down to the demands to compete with City, more than Klopp leaving.<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"KLOPP\"><\/a><strong>The Jurgen Klopp era has now officially come to an end. Just how did he transform Liverpool in his time at Anfield? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s probably gone full circle, to be honest. Obviously he didn\u2019t do it on his own, the owners have been great in terms of allowing him to do what he needed to do. But he totally turned the team around, turned the squad around and literally turned the club around. I don\u2019t think you can talk any higher of what he\u2019s done at Liverpool. Everyone should be very proud and grateful that he was there for so long.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Read more: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.squawka.com\/en\/features\/incredible-stats-jurgen-klopp-liverpool-era\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Seventeen incredible stats from the Jurgen Klopp era at Liverpool<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"BEST\"><\/a><strong>Where do you rank Klopp among all-time Liverpool managers?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s hard for me to comment on managers that were doing what they were doing before I was born, but for me, if they were doing similar stuff to Klopp then they must have been special. I can\u2019t think of anyone that\u2019s been better than him, and I would say, especially nowadays when football is so much more competitive than say 30 years ago.<\/p>\n<p>But like I said, I don\u2019t want to speak out of turn because I wasn\u2019t around then and I didn\u2019t see them play. But I can only imagine they weren\u2019t as good as this Liverpool set-up. So, for me, he has to be ranked right at the top, if not the very top.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pep Ljinders has since been announced as the new Red Bull Salzburg boss. Do you think he deserved a crack at the top job at Anfield? Or is it maybe a bit too early?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>You never know, because as we\u2019ve said many times in these chats, time is everything in football. Arne Slot might be there for the next 10 years, we don\u2019t know. So it\u2019s hard for young managers to try to turn down these job opportunities if they do become available, whether it\u2019s too early in their career or not, because you just don\u2019t know what\u2019s around the corner, and you don\u2019t know how well the next person is going to do. It\u2019s a tough one, but the only real answer is with hindsight, and we don\u2019t have that right now.<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"ARNE-SLOT\"><\/a><strong>What do you think are the first priorities for the new Liverpool boss Arne Slot in the transfer market this summer?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It will probably be working out the so-called deadwood. At the end of the season, every team has deadwood, whether that\u2019s people coming to the end of their contracts or people not wanting to be there.<\/p>\n<p>So I think he needs to work out the players that are not going to fit into his regime or the way he wants to do things. And once he\u2019s worked that out, depending on what types of players are going to be leaving, then obviously he needs to replace those players if that\u2019s what they need.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Liverpool have confirmed that Thiago will leave when his contract expires in the summer, and he played just five minutes this season. Did Liverpool miss having someone like him in midfield?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, definitely. If you\u2019ve got a fit Thiago, every team misses that, and those players are hard to come by. But, sadly for him, he couldn\u2019t stay fit and then couldn\u2019t get game time and couldn\u2019t have an effect on the team, or help the team at all. But, in terms of a fit Thiago, that\u2019s what every team needs, or every top team anyway.<\/p>\n<p><strong>None of Liverpool\u2019s forwards were particularly clinical this season by their own standards. If Michael Edwards had to decide to replace one, which is most dispensable, or most likely to leave?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>With all the speculation, I\u2019ll probably go with Mo (Salah). I don\u2019t want him to go, but in terms of the amount of money you\u2019re going to get, with all the chat that we\u2019ve heard over the season \u2013 whether any of that\u2019s true or not, we don\u2019t know. But I think the others are a lot younger, they\u2019re hopefully going to be playing for Liverpool for the foreseeable future.<\/p>\n<p>So he\u2019s the one that\u2019s probably only going to be there for another year or two maximum, so he wouldn\u2019t probably be the one that you would try to replace, again just because the level of money that you would attract.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What do you make of Klopp chanting Arne Slot\u2019s name after his final game as Liverpool manager?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>He\u2019s trying to do the right thing, and be nice and basically let the fans know that he\u2019s on their side, which is a lovely thing to do. Klopp\u2019s done it the whole time, trying to take the attention off of himself, which is just what a nice bloke does, he\u2019s not there for attention. I think he\u2019s just trying to let the fans know that he\u2019s on their side, still on the new manager\u2019s side, and he\u2019s trying to give Arne Slot the best welcome that he can get.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anthony Gordon has been linked with a move to Anfield after a scintillating season at St James\u2019 Park. How do you think the Anfield crowd would react to an ex-Everton star like Gordon joining the club? Do you think he\u2019d be a good signing for the Reds?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>First of all, like anything in football, if he performs they won\u2019t care where he\u2019s come from, but if he doesn\u2019t they\u2019ll soon jump on his back. So for him, it\u2019d definitely be a risky move, but not if he\u2019s confident in what he can deliver.<\/p>\n<p>If he performs, he\u2019d win the fans over. I think he\u2019s a good player, he\u2019s had a great season, I guess the concerns would be that Newcastle would probably want double what they paid for him. So whether he\u2019s that good, I don\u2019t know. But he\u2019s certainly a player that I think would excite Liverpool fans if you took away the Everton situation.<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"VAR\"><\/a><strong>There has been big news around VAR this week with clubs set to vote on scrapping it for next season. Would you get rid of VAR or do you think it\u2019s good for the game?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ll get rid of it straight away, in a heartbeat. I don\u2019t think it\u2019s good for the game at all. I think it slows it down, takes some of the emotion away from the game and, let\u2019s face it, sport is not designed to be perfect. It\u2019s you against the opponent, and some days you get away with stuff, some days you don\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p>Goalline technology and stuff like that I totally agree with, because that\u2019s the stuff that changes games. But all we ever do is talk about VAR, so that tells you something\u2019s wrong. And also it\u2019s not like they even get all the decisions correct anyway.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The likes of Teun Koopmeiners and Manuel Ugarte have been linked with Chelsea as potential Conor Gallagher replacements this summer, but would it be a mistake for the Blues to sell their home-grown midfielder to sign one of these two?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I do, because we\u2019ve seen many players that look good outside the Premier League come to these teams and fail. Obviously there\u2019s been endless chat about Gallagher leaving, but I don\u2019t think anyone can say confidently that these two could come in and be better than Gallagher. They\u2019re two good players, but are they going to be better than what he\u2019s doing in the Premier League right now? Obviously we don\u2019t know. If it was a straight up 100% yes, then of course they\u2019re worth signing.<\/p>\n<p>But I think it\u2019s a risky move when, for me, Gallagher has done a decent job. I know he\u2019s not a so-called world beater but he knows the Premier League, he knows the club. He does his job very well and he\u2019s one that certainly puts in a good shift. So he\u2019s one of the few positions, really, that have come out of Chelsea I think.<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"CHELSEA\"><\/a><strong>After some much-improved form towards the end of the season, Chelsea have secured European football for next season. How important is this for their project at this stage?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s huge. A club like Chelsea can\u2019t be outside Europe. And look, this is the first step, they need to be in the Champions League that\u2019s for sure. But they\u2019ve still finished six places in front of last year, so that has to be a positive that they are back in Europe. I think now they\u2019ve got the platform where they can start building for next season and if they kick on again, then they should be back competing. It\u2019s a positive season but they still finished about 30 points off the title pace.<\/p>\n<p><strong>With the added responsibilities in Europe, where do you think Chelsea can realistically finish next year? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I think if they get some recruitment in, and the correct recruitment obviously, then they can complete. On their day, they can compete with the best, but they just haven\u2019t been doing it regularly. I think as long as they can get a few new experienced players in, then there\u2019s no reason why they can\u2019t bounce back quickly.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Chelsea have been linked with another Brazilian wonderkid in recent days. What do you make of this apparent transfer plan of signing very young players, often unknown by European football fans?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t mind. You can\u2019t build your business plan around it, but if they\u2019ve got the funds to take one or two gambles every now and then, I think what they\u2019re trying to do is great. You can understand that, but you can\u2019t assume you\u2019re going to get [a star]. So you\u2019ve got to build your squad and then you have that as a luxury, not as your game plan.<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"PALMER\"><\/a><strong>Cole Palmer was named Premier League Young Player of the Year at the weekend. What have you made of his first season at Chelsea?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I think he\u2019s been great. I didn\u2019t know too much about him before the season to be honest, and I openly said that. But he grabbed the Premier League by storm, he\u2019s looked very comfortable, I like the way he plays. He\u2019s super intelligent, and he definitely shocked me with the amount of goals he\u2019s got. You can tell he\u2019s a technical player, I thought he\u2019d be more of an assist man but at the minute he looks like a goal machine.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Will there be added pressure now for Cole Palmer to replicate these numbers? Would it matter too much if he had a slightly quieter campaign?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It would matter because now people are going to expect the same, or similar. So he\u2019s kind of set the bar for himself, but people should realise that he is a young kid. It\u2019s his first season, you shouldn\u2019t really expect this, but I think people expect it because they believe in him so much.<\/p>\n<p>But I do think people need to give him a bit of rope because \u2013 I hope this isn\u2019t the case, but a lot of people take the first season by storm. It\u2019s the second season that proves whether you\u2019re at that level, or whether you were just living the dream, didn\u2019t really know what you were doing and things were just working for you. So the second season is always the one. We\u2019ve seen so many players come and go for one year, but I hope that\u2019s not the case with him, because he seems like he\u2019s calm and calculated. And he looks like he\u2019s got loads of ability, so it definitely doesn\u2019t look like a flash in the pan.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reece James was sent off against Brighton in his second game back from injury for kicking out at an opponent. Does this bother you, coming from the club captain?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, well coming from anyone really. It\u2019s just stupid, isn\u2019t it? Anytime you get sent off, it\u2019s hard to win football matches with 10 players. It\u2019s hard to win with 11, let alone 10. If you\u2019ve done something to try and help the team, then got sent off, like a last-ditch tackle and you got sent off then fine, that\u2019s part of the game. But to be sent off for something so stupid, you\u2019re gaining absolutely nothing. It\u2019s probably just a bit of frustration from the last few months, in terms of not being able to play. But he should know better than that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reece James made his return from injury just before the end of the season. If you were in Gareth Southgate\u2019s shoes, would you take him to Euro 2024 &#8211; especially with the 26-man squad?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah I would, but I think you\u2019d have to put him through a quite intensive fitness camp, because you can\u2019t take people on their reputation alone. You need to take people that are fit and can help the team, so I\u2019d want to make sure he\u2019s fit before I agree to it. But I definitely think as long as he\u2019s match fit, I\u2019ll definitely take him. But he hasn\u2019t played, so he can\u2019t be that match fit. But like I said, if he went through some sort of strict five-day camp or whatever, then I\u2019ll definitely take him.<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"ENGLAND\"><\/a><strong>What do you make of England\u2019s chances at Euro 2024 this summer?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We have to be excited about it, there\u2019s not many teams that have got an attacking force like we have, even in midfield. I think we have to be excited. They\u2019ve competed in the last few major tournaments, and unfortunately come up against more experienced match winners. If they\u2019ve learned from that, they\u2019re all a few years older, hopefully they\u2019ve taken that experience forward and you don\u2019t have to be the best team to win, you just have to find a way to win. And that\u2019s what you need in the latter stages, because in the latter stages, that\u2019s when everyone is good enough to win.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Read more: England odds to win Euro 2024<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Regardless of what happens this summer, how would you rate the job Gareth Southgate has done as England manager? Does he need a trophy for it to actually be deemed a success?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yes and no. Probably more, yes, because it\u2019s certainly better than it has been, we\u2019re competing, we\u2019re playing some good football and we have gone deep in major competitions. But at the moment the results are still the same. At the minute, all the managers are kind of the same, with no trophies. If you come second, third, fourth, who cares? I think for him to stand out about the rest, he definitely needs to get a trophy.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Read more: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.squawka.com\/en\/england-next-permanent-manager-favourite-odds\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Next England manager odds: The favourites if Gareth Southgate steps down<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>David Moyes has managed his last game in charge of West Ham this weekend. Did you feel the Hammers needed a change or is this a harsh decision?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It just depends on what their expectations are. Where did they finish, ninth wasn\u2019t it? At the moment, with what they\u2019ve got, I don\u2019t know what they really expect. I think that\u2019s a decent season for West Ham, they won a trophy not long ago, they\u2019re in the top half of the league. Right now they\u2019re not going to be breaking into the top six, so realistically they can only finish two places higher anyway.<\/p>\n<p>But I guess it\u2019s only due to the owners probably thinking they want to have a different style of football, but that\u2019s fine. But then you need to get the players that can do that, so if they\u2019ve got a plan for a new manager, and they\u2019re going to put their hands in their pockets and sign some better players, then that\u2019s fine. But if they\u2019re just going to stick with the squad they\u2019ve got, then I think they\u2019ve made the wrong decision.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Who\u2019s been the best right-back of the Premier League season?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t think there was one that blew me away to be honest, loads had a good few weeks. (Malo) Gusto was good at Chelsea for a while, loads have come and gone. Just because there isn\u2019t a standout, I\u2019ll probably go with (Kyle) Walker because he\u2019s obviously played a lot of minutes in the title-winning team, but performance-wise I think everyone\u2019s pretty much been on par really.<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"UNDERRATED\"><\/a><strong>Who do you think has been the most underrated player of the Premier League this season?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The first one that comes to my mind is probably (Alexis) Mac Allister at Liverpool. People have realised how good he is, but what I mean is he\u2019s been playing out of position, with no fuss, but still keeping up really good performances and he scored some really big, important goals as well.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s not easy for some players to play out of position for so long and do it with a smile on their face. So I think people forget that he\u2019s playing out of position, and he\u2019d much rather play further up. So I\u2019d probably pick someone like that, that\u2019s done a job for the team and kind of sacrifices himself a little bit.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Who do you think has been the most underrated manager of the Premier League this season?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I think Sean Dyche. To stay out of the bottom three, to stay in the league is the first thing. But then also without that deduction, they finish mid-table, something like that? So I think he\u2019s done a great job there and if they kick on and have the same sort of performances, then they\u2019re not going to start with a points deduction next year, are they? Well, actually I better not say that, I don\u2019t know but they shouldn\u2019t be.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Having won the Premier League title for a fourth straight season, is this Manchester City team the greatest in the competition\u2019s history?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>For consistency, yes, in terms of doing it over the four years. But there have been a few teams over the years that have been sensational. So it\u2019s hard to say in a one-off season it\u2019d be hard to pick. But in terms of their dominance, and their domination over the last four or five years, it\u2019s been special. I think because of that you\u2019d probably say yes.<\/p>\n<p>But in terms of one-off seasons, that (Invincibles) Arsenal side, our Chelsea team, that United team, if they were all in the same league at once, then it\u2019d be bloody interesting. But like I say, for the past four or five years, I think I\u2019d have to say yes.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Former Liverpool defender Glen Johnson spoke to Squawka about the dawning of the new era at Anfield after Jurgen Klopp&#8217;s departure. Other topics covered include potential transfer plans for Arne Slot, Liverpool links for Anthony Gordon, the big VAR vote and the most underrated player and manager of the season. 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