{"id":1367642,"date":"2024-11-05T13:30:31","date_gmt":"2024-11-05T13:30:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.squawka.com\/en\/?p=1367642"},"modified":"2024-11-05T12:04:46","modified_gmt":"2024-11-05T12:04:46","slug":"pat-nevin-interview-chelsea-palmer-jackson-fernandez-everton","status":"publish","type":"features","link":"https:\/\/www.squawka.com\/en\/features\/pat-nevin-interview-chelsea-palmer-jackson-fernandez-everton\/","title":{"rendered":"Cole Palmer: Chelsea&#8217;s &#8216;new Kevin De Bruyne&#8217; could be one of the best in the world, says Pat Nevin"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>This week former <a href=\"https:\/\/www.squawka.com\/en\/outright-markets\/chelsea-premier-league-outright-odds-squad-tactics-signings\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Chelsea<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.squawka.com\/en\/outright-markets\/everton-odds-to-win-the-premier-league-2024-25-predicted-finish-transfers-best-players-and-full-squad\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Everton<\/a> midfielder Pat Nevin spoke to Squawka about the Blues&#8217; start to life under Enzo Maresca, Cole Palmer&#8217;s ceiling and the Toffee&#8217;s chances of staying in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.squawka.com\/en\/bet\/football-tips\/premier-league\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Premier League<\/a>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nevin also spoke about Enzo Fernandez losing his spot in the Chelsea starting XI and whether the Blues should try to win the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.squawka.com\/en\/bet\/football-tips\/europa-conference-league\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Europa Conference League<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>[dugoutvideo id=&#8221;eyJrZXkiOiIiLCJwIjoic3F1YXdrYSIsInBsIjoia0dnMTBaNXQifQ==&#8221; partner=&#8221;squawka&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h3>Jump to:<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"#MARESCA\"><strong>Where Chelsea could finish under Enzo Maresca this season<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#JACKSON\"><strong>Why Nicolas Jackson isn&#8217;t one of Chelsea&#8217;s problems<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#PALMER\"><strong>Chelsea&#8217;s new Kevin De Bruyne<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#ENZO\"><strong>There&#8217;s no need to worry about Enzo Fernandez<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#UECL\"><strong>Chelsea&#8217;s Europa Conference League goals<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#EVERTON\"><strong>Why Everton won&#8217;t be relegated<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"MARESCA\"><\/a><strong>We&#8217;re now 10 games into the new Premier League season, what have you made of Chelsea&#8217;s start under Enzo Maresca?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s what I expected before the start of the season. Obviously I work for the BBC, and we all have to give our predictions. And for the first time in quite a long time I thought, \u2018Yeah, top four Chelsea\u2019. I actually think that. I was surprised not many people went for it, for Chelsea to get there. But because they brought such a young team together over the last couple of years, it was never going to work right away.<\/p>\n<p>But I looked at the basics of it and thought there are enough decent players there. And you\u2019ve got Cole Palmer. So this season I thought \u2018Yeah, there\u2019s enough there now\u2019. They\u2019ve now got a little bit more knowledge of the Premier League. There are a lot of players that were bought that are not going to work. We\u2019ve waited two years and it\u2019s not worked, and it\u2019s not going to work. The problem is you\u2019re not going to get the money back on some of them, but there you go. I\u2019m sure that\u2019s part of the game plan.<\/p>\n<p>At the start of the season, (Enzo) Maresca kind of clarified what was needed. And everybody knows, it was a settled looking squad, people who knew roughly that they\u2019d be playing. A little bit of time to learn and run with each other and understand each other. It\u2019s a weird way he\u2019s had to do it, almost separating two teams. They call them the second XI that are playing in Europe and the League Cup. I was at the game against Newcastle the other night, and the temptation is to call them the stiffs, because that\u2019s what they are, the rezzies [reserves].<\/p>\n<p>But he\u2019s managed to find a way, and we\u2019re right in the middle of a hard time and a very interesting time for Chelsea. Because if you look at what we\u2019ve got now for the games coming up, it\u2019s a run, this is going to tell. So far, it\u2019s kind of where I expected and almost where you\u2019d want to be. But you got the games coming up. If you think about it, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.squawka.com\/en\/outright-markets\/newcastle-premier-league-outright-odds-squad-tactics-signings\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Newcastle<\/a> was a tough one. They\u2019re on a decent run, Chelsea beat them at home. The League Cup game, it doesn\u2019t count because it was the second team. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.squawka.com\/en\/outright-markets\/man-utd-premier-league-outright-odds-squad-tactics-signings\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Man United<\/a> away, a draw. Look, they\u2019re not doing well but a draw up at Old Trafford is always not bad. Then you\u2019ve got <a href=\"https:\/\/www.squawka.com\/en\/outright-markets\/arsenal-premier-league-outright-odds-squad-tactics-signings\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Arsenal<\/a> coming up and then just after that you\u2019ve got <a href=\"https:\/\/www.squawka.com\/en\/outright-markets\/aston-villa-odds-to-win-the-premier-league-2024-25-predicted-finish-transfers-best-players-and-full-squad\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Aston Villa<\/a>, the game after <a href=\"https:\/\/www.squawka.com\/en\/outright-markets\/leicester-premier-league-outright-odds-transfers-squad-tactics\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Leicester<\/a>, then <a href=\"https:\/\/www.squawka.com\/en\/outright-markets\/tottenham-odds-to-win-the-premier-league-2024-25-predicted-finish-transfers-best-players-and-full-squad\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Spurs<\/a> the game after that. You\u2019ve got three big games out of the next six in the league. If Chelsea are still in the top four after that, Chelsea are staying in the top four. And I have a suspicion they will be.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Read more: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.squawka.com\/en\/outright-markets\/premier-league-top-four-odds\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2024-25 Premier League top four odds: Who will qualify for the Champions League?<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"JACKSON\"><\/a><strong>Nicolas Jackson still seems to get a bit of criticism from non-Chelsea fans. But what are your thoughts of his season, and time at Chelsea, so far?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nicolas doesn\u2019t look to me like a natural goalscorer, because you get used to having people around at the very top level as natural goalscorers. But again, a couple of games into the season, I said I think he\u2019ll get 20 goals, which is kind of the standard. If you can get to 20, not necessarily in the Premier League, but 20 over a season, that should be the standard of a really good centre-forward.<\/p>\n<p>I think he\u2019ll get there. And the reason being is he gets himself into brilliant positions. His hit rate isn&#8217;t always perfect, he misses some chances that other centre-forwards take without even thinking. And on top of that, he\u2019s got creativity all over the place around him. If you keep on getting that amount of chances, you just need to be a decent scorer. I say scorer, you know, a natural scorer or a scorer. He\u2019s kind of a decent one, so that\u2019s probably enough.<\/p>\n<p>What he\u2019s more than decent at, is his pace is stupid. The ridiculous pace. Now if you get that sort of pace and your movement gets more intelligent, you\u2019ve got a chance. Wow, you really have a chance. And his movement has become more intelligent. And it\u2019s not a sniffer\u2019s kind of movement around the box, it\u2019s knowing when to run from deep into spaces, so I\u2019m quite impressed.<\/p>\n<p>I think there are a number of players that get stuck in centre-forwards like that. You know, you\u2019re the best player in the world if you have the worst game in the world and you score two goals. That\u2019s the way it is with strikers, and they have to live with that. You can have a brilliant game, but if you miss a chance, you\u2019re having a stinker. So it\u2019s not like other positions and people are about getting another big-name striker, and they\u2019ve said that consistently, I\u2019m not sure. Unless you can get about five or six off the wage bill, which they could easily do without making the team worse. The problem is, will they be able to do it with the money they spent on these players? But Nicolas, don\u2019t worry, he\u2019s alright. Your problem is not there if you\u2019re Chelsea.<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"PALMER\"><\/a><strong>You\u2019ve mentioned him already. But what about Cole Palmer? Just how high is his ceiling for Chelsea?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Again, I have to go back to when I was doing my first and second games that Cole Palmer played for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.squawka.com\/en\/outright-markets\/man-city-premier-league-outright-odds-squad-tactics-signings\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Manchester City<\/a>, he came on as a sub. And he gave the ball away three times. He only had it four times, he gave it away three times. And my commentary was \u2018I think I\u2019ve seen the new Kevin De Bruyne\u2019. And everyone\u2019s looking at me going, \u2018What? Who? Which one? What are you talking about?\u2019<\/p>\n<p>For someone like myself who played in a creative position, he sees everything. And to be honest, I\u2019ve kept on saying that for more than two-and-a-half years now. Saying to people, \u2018No, no, the new Kevin De Bruyne\u2019 and they\u2019d go \u2018Well, I\u2019m not going for it\u2019. When he played that ball out to (Pedro) Neto [against Newcastle], come on. Come on, seriously. Kevin De Bruyne was standing up there going, \u2018Oh yeah I\u2019ll have that all day long\u2019. So he\u2019s extra special. And you never know how far it can go.<\/p>\n<p>If he keeps his head where it is, which is a brilliant place which I love. Some of the very best players just look so laid back, with a laissez faire attitude about life. Cool as you like, never ever spooked, don\u2019t seem to feel the pressure. If he can keep that, if he stays clear of injury, his head isn\u2019t turned. There are quite a few ifs, but they\u2019re all quite possible, he\u2019s going to be one of the best in the world. So that\u2019s quite a few ifs and all, but notice the if I don\u2019t put in there, which is will he be good enough talent wise. No, that\u2019s not even an if. Yes, he already is so fabulous to watch.<\/p>\n<p>I took my son along to the Chelsea vs Newcastle game up at Newcastle during the week and you\u2019re gutted when he\u2019s not on. You understand that he wasn\u2019t going to get played, but you\u2019re kind of gutted because at least once in each game, but usually much more than that, he\u2019ll do something that you just stand and think, nobody else does that. And it\u2019s a joy, it\u2019s great to watch.<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"ENZO\"><\/a><strong>At the other end of the scale, Enzo Fernandez looks to have lost his place in Chelsea&#8217;s midfield to Romeo Lavia. Why do you think he&#8217;s struggling at the moment?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s very difficult to see, because there was a period of time where he was stuck up top and it was suggested they thought he was going to be a No.10 sort of player. And I can\u2019t see that. He\u2019s not pacey enough, there\u2019s not enough passing for that position. Not in comparison to Cole Palmer, not in comparison to Joao Felix, not in comparison to (Kiernan) Dewsbury-Hall, absolutely not. They are really brilliant in that position.<\/p>\n<p>So the position is that kind of No.6, or the more defensive midfielder. The problem is you\u2019ve got (Moises) Caicedo playing well and Lavia, and it\u2019s kind of tough to get into that team. I don\u2019t think his position in the squad is in doubt. I suspect he\u2019ll be there for quite some time, again for a number of reasons.<\/p>\n<p>Okay it\u2019s not going great, he\u2019s still young and he\u2019ll do a good job there. I think everyone thinks because it was \u00a3100 million or whatever, people think you\u2019ve got to be X because you cost that. Well, he didn\u2019t come up with a fee. It\u2019s nothing to do with him. I think he can be a good, useful, strong player for Chelsea for a decent amount of time, a long time if you just ignore the cost. Because in the end, you\u2019re never going to get that money back for Enzo, and he\u2019s not that type of player.<\/p>\n<p>So yeah, did Chelsea over pay? Yeah. Is he a player that will be able to do a job over a period of time? Yeah, absolutely. There are others in the squad and in the wider squad that probably have more worry about leaving.<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"UECL\"><\/a><strong>Chelsea have another Europa Conference League game this week. Do you think this is a competition Chelsea should be aiming to win?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Are they bothered, really? I know from the club you\u2019ll never hear anything other than \u2018Yes, we want to win it. We\u2019ve never won this trophy before\u2019, all the positives. Will there be wailing and gnashing of teeth if they went out? Absolutely not. It\u2019s not the core of what you need to do as a group.<\/p>\n<p>What it is, I think, is very handy. Really handy. There are a number of players who would be very, very put out just now if they weren\u2019t getting any games at all. Whereas you\u2019ve got a number of players now that are playing quite regularly, European football, sometimes League Cup but no longer that because you\u2019re out of that now after getting beat by Newcastle. So it\u2019s been a bit of a lifesaver. It\u2019s also a chance, when you\u2019re listening to Pep Guardiola who\u2019s always talking about the right number of minutes. If the players are not getting enough minutes, there you go, you get minutes. And if you\u2019re getting too many minutes you can get dropped into that group and you don\u2019t have to play for a while, and you can come back out.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s actually kind of falling nicely into the manager\u2019s lap that competition. Should you try and win it? Yeah, try and win it. Should you go and put your top team out at any point? I don\u2019t think you can because you\u2019ve not named them all anyway, but is it the end of the world if you don\u2019t? Not at all, I\u2019m afraid. No, it\u2019s not up there. And neither should it be, because Chelsea Football Club and its recent history and the money it\u2019s spent, you should be aiming much, much higher than that.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Read more: <a href=\"Chelsea vs FC Noah prediction, stats, tips and team news\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Chelsea vs Noah prediction, stats, tips and team news<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"EVERTON\"><\/a><strong>Everton did lose at the weekend, but they have generally picked up form recently. What do you think has been behind the general positive change in results after their poor start?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Do you know what? I thought they were okay at the start. The results weren\u2019t going well, but I thought there were reasons for it and I understood it completely. And so, again, I\u2019ve been talking to a lot of people on broadcasts saying everything will be okay, even though they were getting hammered. The one bad one was Spurs away from home. I was at that game, they stunk. But apart from that, the basics are fine, the structure is fine.<\/p>\n<p>Look at the amount of chances and goals they\u2019re giving away at the moment. Very, very few. Look, are they good to watch? No, not particularly. Everton fans know that. Is there an organised enough unit with a group of players that know what they\u2019re doing to get away from the bottom three? Yeah, I think so. And I\u2019ve not changed. I\u2019ve not thought at any point that there has been real danger, even through those really bad results.<\/p>\n<p>And the thing is, they could do with getting no injuries to their forward attacking players. So (Iliman) Ndiaye, keep him fit. Dominic (Calvert-Lewin), try and keep him fit as long as you possibly can. And if you can do that, my worries about Everton are absolutely limited. Nothing\u2019s changed. Just eventually the luck has come back to them a little bit. Until this weekend, but for 27 seconds, Everton would be sitting there on 12 points, mid-table, level with Man United and Fulham, which wouldn\u2019t sound really bad. It shows you how it\u2019s wafer thin, it\u2019s tight as tight can be. Everton will be okay, I\u2019m pretty comfortable with that.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Read more: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.squawka.com\/en\/outright-markets\/premier-league-relegation-odds\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2024-25 Premier League relegation odds: Who will drop to the Championship?<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Pat Nevin was speaking to Squawka <a href=\"http:\/\/betvictor.com\/en-gb\/sports\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">on behalf of BetVictor.<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This week former Chelsea and Everton midfielder Pat Nevin spoke to Squawka about the Blues&#8217; start to life under Enzo Maresca, Cole Palmer&#8217;s ceiling and the Toffee&#8217;s chances of staying in the Premier League. 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